*banging head on desk*
*banging head on desk*
just... read these stories
http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/03/is-the-la ... h-5324776/
http://2paragraphs.com/2015/08/large-ha ... september/
ok I'm getting annoyed with these type of stories
http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/03/is-the-la ... h-5324776/
http://2paragraphs.com/2015/08/large-ha ... september/
ok I'm getting annoyed with these type of stories
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Re: *banging head on desk*
also check out this yahoo's video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56YW8FhKyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56YW8FhKyU
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Re: *banging head on desk*
It's pure propaganda for the LHC and a mockery of critics. If you're now critical about the LHC people will relate to you as a religious anti-science nutcase.
The sad thing is that journalist just blindly follow the physicists ... if Hawkins says so ... the journalists don't look at the safety report and question what Cosmic Rays are ... it's easier and safer to write some over the top BS than to ask the hard questions ... what is the Vacuum/Higgs field made of ... is it like a super-fluid ... can it transmit vibrations and shake surrounding matter apart ... would it heat up with so many collisions going on in one small place ... what about the penta-quark and the assumption that more quarks could hook up and form exotic wormish particles? This is the reality of the LHC that journalist should ask questions about but won't ... simply because we have never been in this situation before ... and even scientists don't know ... they just point at Cosmic Rays with their much higher energies ... but those are iron nuclei colliding and not protons with much higher energy than those in the LHC.
The sad thing is that journalist just blindly follow the physicists ... if Hawkins says so ... the journalists don't look at the safety report and question what Cosmic Rays are ... it's easier and safer to write some over the top BS than to ask the hard questions ... what is the Vacuum/Higgs field made of ... is it like a super-fluid ... can it transmit vibrations and shake surrounding matter apart ... would it heat up with so many collisions going on in one small place ... what about the penta-quark and the assumption that more quarks could hook up and form exotic wormish particles? This is the reality of the LHC that journalist should ask questions about but won't ... simply because we have never been in this situation before ... and even scientists don't know ... they just point at Cosmic Rays with their much higher energies ... but those are iron nuclei colliding and not protons with much higher energy than those in the LHC.
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Re: *banging head on desk*
I'm not mocking the critics, you do have a right but saying those sort of things make people panicchelle wrote:It's pure propaganda for the LHC and a mockery of critics. If you're now critical about the LHC people will relate to you as a religious anti-science nutcase.
The sad thing is that journalist just blindly follow the physicists ... if Hawkins says so ... the journalists don't look at the safety report and question what Cosmic Rays are ... it's easier and safer to write some over the top BS than to ask the hard questions ... what is the Vacuum/Higgs field made of ... is it like a super-fluid ... can it transmit vibrations and shake surrounding matter apart ... would it heat up with so many collisions going on in one small place ... what about the penta-quark and the assumption that more quarks could hook up and form exotic wormish particles? This is the reality of the LHC that journalist should ask questions about but won't ... simply because we have never been in this situation before ... and even scientists don't know ... they just point at Cosmic Rays with their much higher energies ... but those are iron nuclei colliding and not protons with much higher energy than those in the LHC.
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it - Agent K
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Re: *banging head on desk*
This kind of article is pure ridicule, it won't make people panic, in contrast it serves only to create the idea that who critics the LHC is a religious nutcase.draph91 wrote:I'm not mocking the critics, you do have a right but saying those sort of things make people panic
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Re: *banging head on desk*
oh rightchelle wrote:This kind of article is pure ridicule, it won't make people panic, in contrast it serves only to create the idea that who critics the LHC is a religious nutcase.draph91 wrote:I'm not mocking the critics, you do have a right but saying those sort of things make people panic
i have 2 more news stories
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mini-black-hol ... se-1514203
http://www.vauxhalladvance.com/blog/201 ... he-bottom/
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Re: *banging head on desk*
The second one isn't about physics, the first one is funny because she says there is no danger while we actually know nothing about the Higgsfield so how can we know how stable a false vacuum would be ... until last year we weren't even sure if the Higgsfield existed ... so she moves on to the classic statement:
"Addressing concerns that such mini black holes could be created with Cern's Large Hadron Collider, Moss said this is not the case. Mini black holes created by the LHC are of even lower energy than those that can be created by cosmic rays crashing into particles in our atmosphere."
Which isn't waterproof, because ultra high-energy collisions of Cosmic Rays are most likely iron nuclei and not proton-proton collisions, that's why there is so much more energy output ... the protons colliding are in the same energy region as those in the LHC.
Here's the wiki-page on the false vacuum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum
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Re: *banging head on desk*
I'm aware of the false vacuumchelle wrote:The second one isn't about physics, the first one is funny because she says there is no danger while we actually know nothing about the Higgsfield so how can we know how stable a false vacuum would be ... until last year we weren't even sure if the Higgsfield existed ... so she moves on to the classic statement:
"Addressing concerns that such mini black holes could be created with Cern's Large Hadron Collider, Moss said this is not the case. Mini black holes created by the LHC are of even lower energy than those that can be created by cosmic rays crashing into particles in our atmosphere."
Which isn't waterproof, because ultra high-energy collisions of Cosmic Rays are most likely iron nuclei and not proton-proton collisions, that's why there is so much more energy output ... the protons colliding are in the same energy region as those in the LHC.
Here's the wiki-page on the false vacuum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum
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Re: *banging head on desk*
How ... what special senses do you have?draph91 wrote:chelle wrote:I'm aware of the false vacuumdraph91 wrote: Here's the wiki-page on the false vacuum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum
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Re: *banging head on desk*
I'm aware of the false vacuum[/quote][/quote]
How ... what special senses do you have?[/quote]
I've read about it
How ... what special senses do you have?[/quote]
I've read about it
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it - Agent K
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Re: *banging head on desk*
Hi chelle. Just thought I would say hi. I must thank you for years of presence on the forum. Your posts have been very interesting over years and have stirred up all sorts of fun topics and discussions.
Carry on.. Never mind me..
Carry on.. Never mind me..
Re: *banging head on desk*
Hi Xymox,Xymox wrote:Hi chelle. Just thought I would say hi. I must thank you for years of presence on the forum. Your posts have been very interesting over years and have stirred up all sorts of fun topics and discussions.
Carry on.. Never mind me..
Great to see you show up again and thanks for the appreciation, although I feel a bit ashamed at times that I might have scared away some of the more serious LHC fans ... but than again I tried to stay mostly in the 'Other topics' section ... anyway I've learned so much about physics thanks to this place ... now here after years in the dark I feel like the old dracula in the cave.
best,
m.
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Re: *banging head on desk*
not mocking you but that comment is so god damn funnychelle wrote:Hi Xymox,Xymox wrote:Hi chelle. Just thought I would say hi. I must thank you for years of presence on the forum. Your posts have been very interesting over years and have stirred up all sorts of fun topics and discussions.
Carry on.. Never mind me..
Great to see you show up again and thanks for the appreciation, although I feel a bit ashamed at times that I might have scared away some of the more serious LHC fans ... but than again I tried to stay mostly in the 'Other topics' section ... anyway I've learned so much about physics thanks to this place ... now here after years in the dark I feel like the old dracula in the cave.
best,
m.
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it - Agent K
You hear one doomsday prediction, you hear them all
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