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if that elusive higgs doesnt show up for the party, mass will have a lot of explaining to do

I hope they don't find it......I love it when the rules break down and anyway it will be lots more interesting while people rewrite large bits of physics....

as far as I know all the stuff so far, is well really only helping fine calibrate the detectors.


If this is the case Mad eh?

They need first to understand what the data their detectors are producing mean. But once they can reliably interpret these data they can use the same data as basis for their discoveries.
There's chance some of collisions they recorded so far involved Higgs in a way they predicted ... but they will only know for sure when they have enough of them.

They are currently only getting 100 raw collisions per second. They plan on reaching 600,000,000 raw collisions per second. This incredible rate will require filtering of only interesting events and ultimately provide MUCH higher quality data for study and LOTS of it..

So right now if they have seen anything, it would be very lucky..

But,,, lucky might happen..

As time goes on and we get better luminosity, more collisions per second, the odds will increase that interesting science results will occur.

For sure the events that we can see on the LHCb event display look different at these energies. More dark blue tracks for example..

And....

I am hoping they dont find the Higgs....

standard model

Xymox wrote:And....

I am hoping they dont find the Higgs....

standard model

Wouldnt that be just an excuse to do collisions at higher energies?

10 bucks says they dont find her

Chuli wrote:

Xymox wrote:And....

I am hoping they dont find the Higgs....

standard model

Wouldnt that be just an excuse to do collisions at higher energies?

No, if LHC does not find the Higgs, this theory is dead. In fact, the room for this theory in its simplest form is already pretty limited as the most likely values for the Higgs mass from fits are already excluded by LEP. But it can not be heavier than a couple of 100 GeV in any form of the theory.

To through in again some LHCb facts : If the Higgs mass happens to be between ~ 130 and 150 GeV, the LHCb experiment has the best opportunity to find it first in about 2 years of data taking (Take that CMS and ATLAS )

IMO unless LHC discoveries lead to a theory that explains everything there is always reason to try higher energies.

Hi Anitusar !

I think you like LHCb !

I sure do.. Best public live event display..

Im betting they dont find the Higgs.

I also think that its possible that some interesting single events might have been seen already. Without MANY more to confirm them however, these events are only speculation. But still,,, I would bet some interesting things have been seen by now..

IMHO...

Xymox wrote:Hi Anitusar !

I think you like LHCb !

I sure do.. Best public live event display..

Hmm, what gave me away Yeah, was kind of cool to make a small contribution to building this detector. Though ATLAS was also pretty impressive just to look at, its really huge

Xymox wrote:Hi Anitusar !
Im betting they dont find the Higgs.

I also think that its possible that some interesting single events might have been seen already. Without MANY more to confirm them however, these events are only speculation. But still,,, I would bet some interesting things have been seen by now..

IMHO...

I just hope they find a new stable particle . And one lucky student out of the thousand that are looking now will find it first. I think, this forum would be a good place to announce it.

Anitusar wrote:

Xymox wrote:Hi Anitusar !

I just hope they find a new stable particle

hehe