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3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:45 am
by Xymox
Records were smashed tonight when the LHC reached 3500GeV per beam. :scared-shocked:

Congratulations :happy-jumpyellow: to all of the LHC team and CERN...

Now on to collisions at 7TeV...

Exciting times...

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/journal/CERNBulle ... 9542?ln=en

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:58 am
by CharmQuark
Congrats :dance: CERN and LHC guys,girls :thumbup:

Can't wait for the collisions :thumbup:

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:30 am
by Wallmott
HavenĀ“t they already collided the beams? Since both beams were running a 3,5 TeV at the same time?

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:27 am
by Tau
Yeah!
We can now hope for a few "accidental" collisions, but maybe they will delay the news for a good publicity moment.

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:44 am
by serych
Kudos to all the people from CERN!!!!

Jakub

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:08 am
by Wallmott
Tau wrote:Yeah!
We can now hope for a few "accidental" collisions, but maybe they will delay the news for a good publicity moment.

So since both beams were ramped up to 3,5 TeV at the same time, have the beams technically collided?

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:13 am
by chriwi
I don't expect accidental collissions as long as they run both baem with only a few bunches.
The more they fill the ring with more bunches of protons accidental collissions will be more likely and I really don't belive they try to avoid them.
Nevertheless its interesting that the LHCb-detector appears in off-mode for a long time now since this one was the first one to show early collissions to the public in december.

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:27 am
by pcatom
Hi

At present the bunches are placed in the machine in such a way that they do not collide in the experiments. Imagine 2 cars driving in opposite directions around a racetrack. They will cross in 2 diametrically opposed locations. The LHC can arrange it so that these crossing points occur outside the experiments. This way they check out the settings of the machine for both beams together without the added complication of them colliding - that comes later.

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:54 am
by chriwi
Correct so far, only that htere are no crossing points outside the experiments onlypassages of bunches wich never meet.

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:57 am
by Stephen
It won't be too long before we see actual collisions.

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:04 pm
by Kasuha
They plan first collisions for 30th press conference or whatever are they planning to hold that day.
Technically speaking, half-energy (1.75 TeV) collisions are already happening (with residual particles in beam pipe, with beam pipe itself and in dump), yet another world record. It just doesn't happen in experiments.

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:14 pm
by Wallmott
Kasuha wrote:They plan first collisions for 30th press conference or whatever are they planning to hold that day.
Technically speaking, half-energy (1.75 TeV) collisions are already happening (with residual particles in beam pipe, with beam pipe itself and in dump), yet another world record. It just doesn't happen in experiments.

Dont you think they will do some before? It would be embaresing if it did not work.

"Uhh, sorry guys we will just have to fix some problems and we will be back in a few hours!"

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:23 pm
by Stephen
I don't think they can top the embarrassment they had in 2008 or when that bird dropped bread on the machine.

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:28 pm
by spencer

Re: 3.5 TeV accelleration ! WORLD RECORD !

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:43 pm
by Danny252
Kasuha wrote:They plan first collisions for 30th press conference or whatever are they planning to hold that day.
Technically speaking, half-energy (1.75 TeV) collisions are already happening (with residual particles in beam pipe, with beam pipe itself and in dump), yet another world record. It just doesn't happen in experiments.
Each beam is 3.5 TeV, so total collision would be 7 TeV (with half being 3.5, not 1.75) - full power is 7 TeV and 14 TeV respectively.