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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by CharmQuark » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:36 pm

Stephen wrote:We'll stop being paranoid eventually, Emmy
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Stephen :D yes we will :P i can't find a hug so will this do? :romance-kisscheek:

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News from Steve Myers (LHC machine)

Post by dh2va » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:50 pm

This was in the mail today... interesting read!

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Better in the long run

Last week, the Chamonix workshop once again proved its worth as a place where all the stakeholders in the LHC can come together, take difficult decisions and reach a consensus on important issues for the future of particle physics. The most important decision we reached last week is to run the LHC for 18 to 24 months at a collision energy of 7 TeV (3.5 TeV per beam). After that, we’ll go into a long shutdown in which we’ll do all the necessary work to allow us to reach the LHC’s design collision energy of 14 TeV for the next run. This means that when beams go back into the LHC later this month, we’ll be entering the longest phase of accelerator operation in CERN’s history, scheduled to take us into summer or autumn 2011.

What led us to this conclusion? Firstly, the LHC is unlike any previous CERN machine. Because it is a cryogenic facility, each run is accompanied by lengthy cool-down and warm-up phases. For that reason, CERN’s traditional ‘run through summer and shutdown for winter’ operational model had already been brought into question. Furthermore, we’ve known for some time that work is needed to prepare the LHC for running at energies significantly higher than the 7 TeV collision energy we’ve chosen for the first physics run. The latest data show that while we can run the LHC at 7 TeV without risk to the machine, running it at higher energy would require more work in the tunnel. These facts led us to a simple choice: run for a few months now and programme successive short shutdowns to step up in energy, or run for a long time now and schedule a single long shutdown before allowing 14 TeV (7 TeV per beam).

A long run now is the right decision for the LHC and for the experiments. It gives the machine people the time necessary to prepare carefully for the work that’s needed before allowing 14 TeV. And for the experiments, 18 to 24 months will bring enough data across all the potential discovery areas to firmly establish the LHC as the world’s foremost facility for high-energy particle physics.

I’d like to invite you all to the summary of the Chamonix workshop on Friday 5 February at 14:00 in the Main auditorium. See: http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=83135

Steve Myers

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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by DCWhitworth » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:02 pm

Of course the fact they don't mention is that why they *really* want to shut the LHC down in 2012 is so they don't get blamed if the world ends then ;)
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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by Stephen » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:10 pm

You're not the first person suggesting that.

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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by Shadowdraxx » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:15 pm

mm interesting indeed.

and tbh erm lol who is gunna be around to blame them if it did?.....

2012 is the biggest joke ive ever heard tbh

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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by DCWhitworth » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:15 pm

Stephen wrote:You're not the first person suggesting that.
I know, originality isn't my strong point. :)
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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by DCWhitworth » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:19 pm

Shadowdraxx wrote: 2012 is the biggest joke ive ever heard tbh
Really ? Let me tell you the one about magnetic holes . . .
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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by Stephen » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:22 pm

DCWhitworth wrote:
Shadowdraxx wrote: 2012 is the biggest joke ive ever heard tbh
Really ? Let me tell you the one about magnetic holes . . .
That part is actually more sane than "reproduction of biospheres" or "magnetic traps of devil".

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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by CharmQuark » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:38 pm

Look on a brighter note guys :D we could all have a huge party and just not care anymore :P
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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by DCWhitworth » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:40 pm

emmylou wrote:Look on a brighter note guys :D we could all have a huge party and just not care anymore :P
You need an excuse ??
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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by CharmQuark » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:44 pm

Hmmmmmmmmmm well no :clap: but it could be good with us all together :dance: :lol:
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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by Stephen » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:48 pm

Right there with you. I haven't been to a party in 2 years.

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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by CharmQuark » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:09 pm

Stephen wrote:Right there with you. I haven't been to a party in 2 years.
wow really? we need to sort this out :dance: one thing though you gotta dance with me :roll: deal :thumbup:
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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by Stephen » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:39 am

I would love to. It would be nice taking a break from reading stories about black holes and the end of the world.

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Re: 2010 Startup

Post by Shadowdraxx » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:14 am

stephen by now tho are you not re-reading the same material?.

look at it this way the abstract + abstract theories about them possibly being created isnt till design spec anyroad, so think of 2010 and 2011 as time off.

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