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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:31 am 
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My two earlier postings here were denied.
Here's another attempt:

Why Dark Matter And Energy YOK


A. Astronomers stoke cosmic debate
Astronomers from the United Kingdom have published papers criticizing some of the evidence used to support theories of dark matter and energy.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... ic_debate_

B. Rethink A Basic Physics Tenet

- Neutrino quick-change artist caught in the act.

A transformation from one ‘flavor’ to another confirms the elusive elementary particles have mass and suggests a need for new physics.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... in_the_act


- Each and every particle has mass.

Dark energy and matter YOK.
Higgs particle YOK.
If you are not afraid of embarrassingly obvious answers, rethink a basic tenet, adopt space-distance in lieu of space-time.

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(Comments From The 22nd Century)

Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4427
Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4887
EOTOE.Embarrassingly obvious expanding horizons beyond Darwin And Einstein.
http://www.molecularfossils.com/2010/05 ... ersal.html


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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:41 am 
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...and since my last comment has been posted, here's the earlier comment I failed to post:

The LHC Chases Its Tail
An LHC Thinking Break
In The 20th/21st-Centuries Technology Culture Maze Rat Race
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4280
Nov 25 2009

A. Main purposes of the LHC (its first high-energy collisions to be attempted early 2010)

Expected to address most fundamental questions of physics, that are said to block further progress in understanding the cosmic evolution. Planned-built with intention of testing predictions of high-energy physics, mainly:

- Existence of the hypothesized Higgs boson(s), for completing the Standard Model, to explain the origin of mass in the universe,

- Do all known particles have supersymmetric partners, for clearing up the mystery of dark matter,

- Are there extra dimensions as postulated by models inspired by string theory.


B. Let's get off the 20th/21st centuries technology culture maze rat race, and take a thinking break:

The study of cosmic evolution concerns and affects the study and comprehension of each and every subject in the universe. Cosmic evolution originated with gravity, which originated with inflation.

Progress in understanding the cosmic evolution starts with Thinking. Every experiment on the course of its study starts with Thinking. Per my thinking (small t, of course)
E=Total[m(1 + D)] represents the essence of cosmic evolution.

E = Energy content of the universe
m = mass content of the universe
D = distance, Total = in all spatial directions, from the point of Big-Bang, of singularity's energy-mass superposition

E of the universe is constant, and the variables of E are the extents of its mass formats and their density. And this is the archteype of configuration for the origin of mass anywhere. Production of an amount of m in a one-shot process takes an amount of E that renders D zero. In a one-shot process a superduper squeeze to overcome D is required to achieve an E-m superposition. This is to be attempted at the LHC, with the highest amount of energy now feasible for us, which is a diminutively minuscule amount for the purpose.

Many formats of mass are not formed from energy in a one-shot process, but in conglomeration processes consisting of totalities of multitudes of small partial intermediate steps. Life is an example. As in life's genesis and survival. It took energy to originate life, in the form of genes, and it takes energy to continuously replicate it, to replicate the genes, life's primal organisms. And it took energy to initiate formation and carry on the evolution of the pre-life mass formats that eventually complexed into genes, etc., all the way back to inflation. Monotheism is the E-m superposition.

Cosmic evolution is also called particle physics or evolutionary biology or complexing or other terms. The LHC high-energy collisions will most probably advance our comprehension of it even if, as I expect, it will fail to demonstrate that the origin of mass in the universe depends on the hypothesized Higgs boson(s) and will fail to demonstrate the existence of dark matter or energy. I avoid the "extra dimensions" since they are beyond my simple-minded comprehension. IMO they are religious concepts. Per my commonsensical, scientific, concept of cosmic evolution everything started with inflation and will eventually revert to singularity.


Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)

The Universe According To Planck
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#6463
03.2010 Updated Life Manifest
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#5065
Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4427
Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4887


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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:25 am 
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Galaxy Clusters Evolved By Dispersion

The Universe According To Planck

A. From "The universe according to Planck"
Science News editor in chief Tom Siegfried reports on a new image of the early cosmos from the Euroscience Open Forum meeting in Turin, Italy.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... _to_Planck

"(Early) history of the universe, including the formation of galaxies and their growth into huge structures"

B. From "On Energy, Mass, Gravity, Galaxies Clusters AND Life, A Commonsensible Recapitulation"
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#2125

- "Galaxy Clusters Evolved By Dispersion, Not By Conglomeration"
- Introduction of E=Total[m(1 + D)]
- "Dark Energy And Matter And The Emperor's New Clothes"

Galaxy clusters are, rationally and commonsensibly, the archetypes of original cosmic Newtonian bodies. They move and accelerate Newtonianly.

They move and accelerate Newtonianly because they evolved at the start of inflation from the mass
just resolved from energy. They evolved by dispersion of the resolved mass into particles that became galaxy clusters. Their dispersion was/is fueled by mass reconverting to energy. At singularity, at D=0, all cosmic energy was in mass format. The start of inflation was the start of mass-to-energy reconversion, the start of gravity and of the clusters' acceleration against gravity.
Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)
03.2010 Updated Life Manifest
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#5065
Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4427
Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4887


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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:22 am 
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umm welcome to the happy place Dov :thumbup:

hoe you enjoy your stay with us ;)

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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:42 am 
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CharmQuark wrote:
umm welcome to the happy place Dov


Thank you...DH


For What The Stars Twinkle

A. Beneath that blazing facade
Researchers revamp ideas about what’s in the sun
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature ... ing_facade

B.Heftiest stars discovered
At more than 200 times sun’s mass, this giant sets a new record.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... discovered

C. So for what do the stars twinkle?

Galaxy clusters move and accelerate Newtonianly because they evolved at the start of inflation from the mass just resolved from energy. They evolved by dispersion of the resolved mass into particles that became galaxy clusters. Their dispersion was/is fueled by mass reconverting to energy. At singularity, at D=0 (D=total dispersion distance), all cosmic energy was in mass format. The start of inflation was the start of mass-to-energy reconversion, the start of gravity and of the clusters' acceleration per Newton's second law.

The energy fueling the clusters motion is the since-inflation mass-to-energy reconversion within the clusters. Thus the increase of expansion distance is accompanied with decrease of mass within the clusters. All mass formats, all spin arrays, are destined to reconvert to energy.

The radiation twinkle of stars is a mode of mass-to-energy reconversion. Some of the energy so released is intercepted by mass formats that ingest it and thus gain temporary postponement of their own reconversion to energy. For live interceptors this is termed natural selection...


Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)
03.2010 Updated Life Manifest
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#5065
Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4427
Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4887


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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:36 pm 
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I really have no idea what you are trying to get across here :eh:

Can you explain in simple terms please? :thumbup:

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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:48 pm 
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CharmQuark wrote:
I really have no idea what you are trying to get across here :eh:
Can you explain in simple terms please? :thumbup:


I'll try:

1 + 1 = 2; 2 + 1 = 3; 2 x 2 = 4

Respectfully ,

Dov

PS: The links furnished in the posts may help, too. DH


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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Dov Henis wrote:
CharmQuark wrote:
I really have no idea what you are trying to get across here :eh:
Can you explain in simple terms please? :thumbup:


I'll try:

1 + 1 = 2; 2 + 1 = 3; 2 x 2 = 4

Respectfully ,

Dov

PS: The links furnished in the posts may help, too. DH


I don't do maths even simple ones :crazy:

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:03 am 
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Dov Henis wrote:
CharmQuark wrote:
Respectfully ,

Dov


Why is it that when someone says 'respectfully' they usually aren't ?

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:38 pm 
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I
- display my identity and mean what I write,
- am 85 yr old, retired from industrial consulting,
- am very busy, w/limited daily PC time, write w/brevity, least repetition,
- discuss ideas-concepts, not personal traits.

Respectfully,

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:11 pm 
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As this is your third attempt at posting, you are creating a very poor “professional” image. You must gain peoples respect before you words will have any creditability...


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 Post Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:57 am 
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Higgs Field-Particle YOK


A. Fermilab homes in on Higgs mass
Higgs likely lighter, and more elusive
http://physicsworld.com/cws/m/1808/2820 ... news/43344


B. According to the standard model,

which describes all the forces in nature except gravity, all elementary particles were born massless. Interactions with the proposed Higgs field would slow down some of the particles and endow them with mass. Finding the Higgs — or proving it does not exist — has become one of the most important quests in particle physics.

If the Higgs exists, it might decay into muons, into electrons paired with neutrinos or into jets of quarks. other elementary particles decay into these same particles.


C. By commonsense, the best scientific approach, Higgs Field-Particle YOK

Galaxy clusters move and accelerate Newtonianly because they evolved at the start of inflation from the mass just resolved from energy per E=Total[m(1 + D)]. They evolved by dispersion of the resolved mass into particles that became galaxy clusters, their dispersion fueled by mass that is reconverting to energy. At singularity, at D=0 (D=total spatial dispersion distance), all cosmic energy was in mass format. The start of inflation was the start of mass-to-energy reconversion, the start of gravity and of the clusters' acceleration per Newton's second law.

Atoms are made of protons and neutrons, together called hadrons, along with lighter electrons. In turn, hadrons consist of quarks, of which there are six varieties. In addition, there are six varieties of fundamental particles related to the electron, called leptons.

The standard model tenet that all elementary particles were born massless is, by common sense, rational for the pre-singularity universe, since just prior to inflation, to genesis of the present universe, all cosmic energy was in mass format. Rationally to the present post inflation universe all particles were born with mass.

Rationally, and in agreement with the concept of singularity, with experience that the extent of mass gained is proportional to the extent of material energetically impansioned, the extent of born mass particles and of their stability are proportional to the attained extent of D.


Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)

The Universe According To Planck
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#6463
03.2010 Updated Life Manifest
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#5065
Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4427
Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4887


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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:11 am 
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Rethink
- A Basic Physics Tenet
- The Universe

A. Neutrino quick-change artist caught in the act
A transformation from one ‘flavor’ to another confirms the elusive elementary particles have mass and suggests a need for new physics.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... in_the_act


B. Adopt

- Each and every particle has mass.
- Dark energy and matter YOK.
- Higgs field/particle YOK.
- Do not be afraid of embarrassingly obvious answers. Adopt space-distance in lieu of space-time.


C. And Rethink The Universe

By the presently available data our universe is a dual-cycle array.

One cycle, the present, started from singularity, with all cosmic energy in mass format, and it has been proceeding to reconvert all the mass resolved at the big bang back to energy, by expanding the cosmos, by accelerating away the galaxy clusters.

The other cycle, the cycle that led to singularity, will re-start when the expanding cosmos consumes most or all mass that fuels the expansion. Gravity will then initiate reconversion of all the energy back to mass, to singularity, again.


Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)
Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4427
Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4887
EOTOE.Embarrassingly obvious expanding horizons beyond Darwin And Einstein.
http://www.molecularfossils.com/2010/05 ... ersal.html


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Origin And Nature Of Natural Selection
Update Concepts And Comprehension

Life is another mass format.
All mass formats are subject to natural selection.
Natural selection is delaying conversion of mass to energy fueling cosmic expansion.
Cosmic expansion is reconversion of all mass to energy.

Natural Selection Updated 2010
Beyond Historical Concepts

Natural Selection applies to ALL mass formats. Life is just one of them.
Natural Selection Defined.

Natural selection is E (energy) temporarily constrained in an m (mass) format.
Period.


Natural selection is a ubiquitous property of each and every and all cosmic mass, spin array, formats. Mass strives to increase its constrained energy content in attempt to postpone its conversion to energy and the addition of its constitutional energy to the totality of the cosmic energy that keeps fueling the cosmic expansion that goes on since the big bang.

Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)
03.2010 Updated Life Manifest
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#5065
Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4427
Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#4887
EOTOE, Embarrassingly obvious TOE, expanding the horizon beyond Darwin And Einstein
http://www.molecularfossils.com/2010/05 ... ersal.html

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Origin And Nature Of Natural Selection
Longevity Schmongevity Genes

It's Not The Procedure, But The Concept That Is Absurd

Longevity Genes Search Reflects Science Decadence
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/ ... .page#6368

A. For most centenarians, longevity is written in the DNA.
A study of people who live past 100 reveals many genetic paths to a long life.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... in_the_DNA


B. Longevity, survival, natural selection, evolution

- Merriam-Webster OnLine
Longevity = a : a long duration of individual life b : length of life <a study of longevity>

- Longevity is about survival, which is about "natural selection", which is about energy constrainment, which is about life evolution, which is about cosmic evolution. Every mass is destined to become energy to fuel the ongoing cosmic expansion. This is why organisms and black holes etc., eat, digest energy in mass forms, to avoid-postpone conversion to energy. This is evolution, which is natural selection, which is survival, which is longevity.

- All mass formats age. Life is a mass format. Searching for longevity genes is searching for evolution genes...


C. The search for longevity genes is a reflection of the 20th-21st centuries science decadence

Its concepts and terminology reflect the abandonment of basic science for adoption of the pretentious cancerous capitalist 20th-21st century technology culture.


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